Jan 24 2012
Lean versus the Toyota Production System
Is there a difference between Lean and the Toyota Production System (TPS)? This is a recurring question. The short answer is yes, but, when you look deeper, it is an issue of packaging as well as of substance.
If you are working in a car company, you cannot openly say that you are using Toyota‘s production system. How could you borrow such things from a competitor, especially if you have been in the business 50 years longer? It is embarrassing to employees, and a weak marketing message. So, regardless of how much you actually use from TPS, you must call it your own “Production Way” or “Operating System,” or…
A generic name like Lean clearly has many practical advantages over TPS. This being said, the minute Lean branched out from Toyota, divergence was to be expected. Major tools of Lean, like Value-Stream Mapping or Kaizen Events are either minor or non-existent in TPS, while the jidoka column of TPS is largely ignored or misunderstood in Lean. See Art Smalley’s presentation at the 2006 Shingo Prize conference, or Working with Machines. The combination of Lean with Six Sigma is also popular in the US, even though Toyota evaluated and passed on Six Sigma.
The umbilical cord, however, was never broken, and the promoters of Lean still use Toyota as a reference. Clearly, nobody would be interested in Lean if it weren’t backed up by the Toyota story, and this raises the question of how far Lean can drift from TPS and still retain this vital link.
The following two comments in the Leadership and Lean The Top 5% discussion group on LinkedIn, highlight the issues. This is what Allison Corabatir has to say, based on her experience at Magna:
There is a lot in a name…. When one says they are implementing TPS, it usually means they are taking a cookie cutter approach and assuming what worked well for Toyota would work well for them too. Obviously, there is no denying that their tools are great and we should learn from Toyota, but in reality, some of the tools need to be tailored to the culture and operation of the company we are working for. […] some tools like VSM does not get enough attention with TPS ( I am a big fan of VSM) and some approaches are totally missing (We put a lot of importance to employee recognisition and rewards). I prefer using the term “lean” and making the system our own.
Who would argue with that? Anna Johnson, on the other hand, describes a very different experience:
My experience with TPS has been that there is a greater emphasis on retention, and lowering of costs through collaboration and teamwork and attrition, whereas while lean equally emphasizes cost cutting, headcount reduction seems more acceptable through RIFs…
When Anna says that Lean “emphasizes cost cutting, headcount reduction,” she describes a 180-degrees turn away from TPS. This version of “Lean” isn’t just a watering down but a betrayal. It is taking the approach with which financial managers have hurt US Manufacturing from the 50s to the 70s, and calling it Lean to mislead audiences into believing that it is Toyota’s approach.
Anybody can slap the Lean label on anything, and it is only a matter of time until this free-for-all makes it worthless. It results in implementations that are best described as L.A.M.E. (Lean As Mistakenly Excecuted) or L.I.N.O (Lean In Name Only). To avoid this, you have to start from the underlying principles of TPS and deploy them in an context-appropriate fashion, but it is easier said than done, because Toyota didn’t do a great job of articulating these principles and we have to reverse-engineer them from TPS.
Lists of principles can be long, abstract, vague and toothless like the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights, or short, specific, and actionable, like the US Bill of Rights. In The Toyota Way, Jeffrey Liker spells out specific and actionable principles, but there are 14 of them, which is too many to remember. The Lean Enterprise Institute has 5 principles, easier to remember but focused exclusively on the flow of materials. They say nothing, for example about human resources. You could claim to follow these principles while practicing yo-yo staffing, hiring massively in boom times and laying off in recessions.
The HBR article on Lean Knowledge Work summarizes Lean principles as follows:
- Relentless attention to detail
- Commitment to data-driven experimentation
- Charging workers with the ongoing task of increasing efficiency and eliminating waste in their jobs.
- Focus on people are the main driver of performance.
- Look for profits in the details of shop floor operations.
- All manufacturing is repetitive at some level, even where it doesn’t appear to be.
- Make materials, information, and people flow.
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Make it easy to do what you do often.
- Improve, don’t optimize. Optimization comes to a full stop; improvements never end.
There are good reasons to use the word Lean rather than TPS to designate what we do. Lean evolves in many different directions as it inspires people in different industries to pursue improvement in ways that work in their context, and it is healthy that they should do so. But there will always be bandwagon jumpers just using the label to sell products or services.
Ron Kunes
January 24, 2012 @ 10:59 am
Comment in the PEX Network & IQPC – Lean Six Sigma & Process Excellence for Continuous Improvement on LinkedIn:
Michel Baudin
January 26, 2012 @ 11:49 pm
You wrote: “…It [TPS] worked for Toyota in Japan at the time it was put in place…” This implies that TPS is a finished thing that was put in place once. It really is a work in progress that keeps evolving. As outsiders to Toyota, we don’t have access to the latest.
You wrote: “…The form of Lean the was developed in the U.S. is a more robust application of the principles of Lean…” I don’t see it. What do you base this on?
When I read what Ohno wrote about Ford, the problem the Toyota people struggled with was how, as a tiny company in the early 1950s, they could compete with giants like Ford. And the answer was certainly not by applying Ford’s mass production system.
In foreign markets, false modesty can be good PR. If I were sitting in Toyota’s PR department, I wouldn’t mind attributing Lean to Eli Whitney if it defused tension and helped gain market share.
Kris Hallan
January 24, 2012 @ 12:41 pm
The only way I have been able to make TPS and Lean sensical is to take on the perspective that the Toyota Production System is a SYSTEM that Toyota defines for managing their business. Lean on the other hand is a SCIENCE. I might classify it as the science of sustainable business. So the Toyota Production System is simply the foremost case study and working experiment in the field. It is not the science itself.
Unfortunately, Lean is a very new science. Like the science of medicine 100+ years ago, it does not have governing bodies or academia to vet new theories, principles, or laws. The current system for building and organizing knowledge on the subject of lean is almost completely open source. To some degree this is good because it should invite experimentation. On the other hand, there is no way to prove theories other than a Darwinian idea that good ideas survive and bad ideas don’t.
Johnny Davis
January 24, 2012 @ 7:31 pm
Comment in the Lean manufacturing & Kaizen discussion group on LinkedIn:
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Steven Bonacorsi
January 25, 2012 @ 7:09 am
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I agree Ron, well said
Michel Baudin
January 26, 2012 @ 3:38 pm
Differences in national cultures play no part in the game of soccer. Once you are on the pitch, it doesn’t matter whether you are from Brazil or Russia, it is the same game. Likewise, Manufacturing transcends national culture. Those who claim there is something they can’t do because of their national culture are tying one hand behind their own back.
I don’t think anybody at Honda would agree that they use TPS. Honda is no slouch at Manufacturing, but fiercely independent. Soichiro Honda used to tell his people to solve their own problems without worrying how others were doing it. I can’t go into specifics, but I know that there are both substantial parts of TPS that they don’t use and a few tricks they have come up with that are not part of TPS.
The Nissan Production Way looks very similar to TPS, but they have come up with a method called Quick Response Quality Control (QRQC) that is not part of TPS and has been widely adopted in France, probably through Renault’s connection with Nissan.
Nicolas Ruhmann
January 26, 2012 @ 11:12 pm
Comment in the PEX Network & IQPC – Lean Six Sigma & Process Excellence for Continuous Improvement on LinkedIn:
Kevin Hop
January 27, 2012 @ 9:49 am
Comment in the Leadership and Lean The Top 5% discussion group on LinkedIn:
John Vandenbemden
January 27, 2012 @ 9:51 am
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Bruce Roorda
January 27, 2012 @ 9:53 am
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Ashley Rowe
January 27, 2012 @ 10:33 am
Comment in the PEX Network & IQPC – Lean Six Sigma & Process Excellence for Continuous Improvement discussion group on LinkedIn:
Michel Baudin
January 27, 2012 @ 10:35 am
Michel Baudin • I wish somebody from Honda would speak up. Neither one of the two documents you link to suggests that Honda uses TPS.
Honda does pursue continuous improvement through its NH circle program (http://world.honda.com/CSR/employee/education/), but I know personally that there are large parts of TPS they don’t use, and that they have developed original methods for some applications, like new product introduction.
There is a “Honda Production System.” It doesn’t get as much attention as TPS, but it’s not a copy, and you still want to buy their cars after seeing the factories.
Ashley Rowe
January 27, 2012 @ 10:35 am
Comment in the PEX Network & IQPC – Lean Six Sigma & Process Excellence for Continuous Improvement discussion group on LinkedIn:
Michel Baudin
January 27, 2012 @ 10:37 am
@Ashley – I see your quote as an example of Honda’s “racing spirit.” Soichiro Honda got the company involved in motorcycle racing from its early days, an activity in which you have to do whatever it takes to be ready on the day of the race. Besides marketing, his goal was to infuse the racing spirit into all the company’s activities, including product development and new product introduction. This is an autonomous Honda development.
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Victor
November 27, 2013 @ 11:02 am
Anyone who observes toyota up close (going to the gemba, and the gemba here includes personnel selection, training methods, employee engagement and many other things besides the “Lean tools and methods”) and also companies that practice Lean, can see the huge gap between the Toyota Management System and Lean.
No wonder only two %!!! of those practising Lean obtain Toyota-level results! No wonder Toyota does not seem too keen on clearing up the issue…
Lean is not what Toyota practices, it is only a secondary part.
Mr Womack and the others who wrote “the machine…” Obviusly missed the key factors and misled readers (and themselves)
The devil is in the details that go beyond Lean and that make a competent application of Lean possible.
The sad truth is us business schools and their persuasive writers spread concepts and generalities. There is no way any manager can turn such concepts into practical tools.
Look, Harvard Business School (to mention one) talks and writes about Lean but as an organisation does not practice Lean, so they are teaching something they do not master. Imagine a family practicioner trying to train neurosurgeons by talking in class about surgery; insane.
GM was partner with Toyota for some 25 years and GM people were allowed to visit and work at the Toyota-managed plant, yet GM was unable to get the shop floor organized like Toyota. Imagine what they got at the human resource management level, labour relations, training methods and programs, product planning and development, relations with suppliers dealers and customers, etc. After 25 years GM went belly up in 2009.
Well, do you think they kept the partnership with Toyota going and, finally, commit themselves to learn from Toyota? Hell no!, they pulled out, a huge strategic error. Neither did they bring in a Top Toyota guy to run GM. No, they brought in a guy from Boeing, a company which has adopted Lean and far from practising Lean, never mind doing what Toyota does.
US industry is going the way of the UK; most of their manufacturing obsolete, lots of management games training while the Germans and the Japanese, and others take the market.
The US it may even do worse than the UK. In fact it reminds me of Germany pre-Hitler; lots of bright scientists, lots of Nobel Prizes, lots of bright bankers, artists and writers yet the country badly mismanaged and the middle class going under.
US business and US government practice obsolete management. Unfortunately most US managers have not caught on.
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Chris
January 14, 2021 @ 6:04 am
Unfortunately many companies “attempt” to implement LEAN manufacturing, but don’t fully understand the culture. Their misunderstanding is to meet “speed” requirements for processes, that are illogical and often impossible.
Speed and efficiency are not the same thing, but that is often misunderstood. The toolbox for LEAN mfg includes many different principles and methods to achieve success, but forcing a method into an environment that is not conducive to that method spells disaster.
You end up with a workforce unable to meet goals, management irritated and critical of the workforce and a general overall morale problem. Kanbans can be great things, in the environment where they work.
The same is true for cell production. If your process includes running parts onto carts, subsequent to the next operation removing parts from these carts, loading back onto carts and so on and so forth through multiple operations – this is NOT cell production.
You can call it a cell all day long, but that doesn’t make it so. It’s like Judge Judy said, “Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.” Trying to force manufacturing models into an environment that doesn’t support this type of production process will only lead to disappointment of management and the workforce.
The most critical factor for success is your workforce. The team with the best players wins. As Jack Welch stated, “There truly are only three measurements that tell you nearly everything you need to know about your organization’s performance: employee engagement, customer satisfaction and cash flow.”
Create an atmosphere of recognition and positive energy, by celebrating early and often – including the small victories. A pessimistic manager ends up with an unhappy tribe and unhappy tribes have a tough time winning.
Consistency is the path to improvement, faster is the path to disaster. If focus is solely on speed, safety incidents and accidents will increase; along with quality discrepancies.